RN Professions

Ep. 13: Flight Nurse, Cert Expert, Author

February 24, 2020 Season 1 Episode 13
RN Professions
Ep. 13: Flight Nurse, Cert Expert, Author
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RN Professions
Ep. 13: Flight Nurse, Cert Expert, Author
Feb 24, 2020 Season 1 Episode 13
Alli Merrell, Robert P. Harris

In this episode I have the privilege of speaking with THE Robert P. Harris who is a flight nurse, Certification Expert and Author of “The Flight Nurse Bible: A field guide to Awesome,” available on amazon. Rob and I discuss what it takes to optimize your journey to becoming a flight nurse, how to maintain sanity and prioritize mental health, and why nurses should be constant learners.

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In this episode I have the privilege of speaking with THE Robert P. Harris who is a flight nurse, Certification Expert and Author of “The Flight Nurse Bible: A field guide to Awesome,” available on amazon. Rob and I discuss what it takes to optimize your journey to becoming a flight nurse, how to maintain sanity and prioritize mental health, and why nurses should be constant learners.



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Alli:
00:00
Rob, thank you for coming on the show today.
Flight Nurse Rob:
01:03
Flight Nurse Rob:
01:43
Well, thank you so much Nurse Alli. I've been really excited to get here, and your your model on your format are just fantastic. And you're such a interactive dynamic speaker. The way you bring out these fantastic responses out of people. I'm excited to be here, and I kind of feel like I'm going on with Barbara Walters.
Alli:
01:43
I really appreciate that. That's that's really cool. And I try. I wanted to be conversational. I want it to be real, you know? It's real people who are listening. And so they need to know that, you know, this was a lot of hard work, and so I like to dig into into the meat of it. So I appreciate that. Um, so let's let's start with how long you have actually been a nurse.
Flight Nurse Rob:
01:44
I have been and are in for going on a decade now. And before that, I was an LV n for a few years while I was in nursing school and working in E. R. Getting my feet under me. I was one of those lucky l B ends. It was able to get me our spot. But how I became an old man was I was a Corman for five years before that, and I found out they let Korman challenge for the L V and license. We're doing this in rhetoric. We're doing this backwards and Before that, I was in high school and I was in the M s Explorer. And before that, I was in diapers and I was living in an ambulance station growing up because my father was a career paramedic, flight paramedic, paramedic, educator. And I just grew up around this life in one of those very, very, very lucky people who knew from the time they could walk what they wanted to do. And so many fortunate things happened in lives to help me along that path. And so here I am, approaching a decade into this full on RN scope of practice and a man just like so many people have been on this podcast before You from your sister Jill, too. Nurse keys to to yourself. We are in love with what we do. May I'm so excited to be here. Talk to you can hear me. I'm so pumped up what
Alli:
02:50
you are. This is one thing I love about Eunice. Rob is that you are. There's no enthusiasm left on the table. You bring it on. I love that.
Flight Nurse Rob:
02:56
Bring it all. Let's Dogo.
Alli:
02:59
So I just have to ask. I mean, that's a that's a pretty. That's a pretty long, um I mean, like you said since you were in diapers, this was something that you knew that you wanted to do. And it sounds like, you know, with your father doing it. He played an important role. And so I'm curious. And I have to ask if you know, after how long have you been on a flight nurse? Now
Flight Nurse Rob:
03:18
have been flight nursing for Call it 67 years.
Alli:
03:22
So it in the 67 years. Is it is it what you imagined as a little child, looking into this is like, Oh, I want to be that hero just like my dad. Is that everything that you thought?
Flight Nurse Rob:
03:32
Yes, it certainly is in the fact that I always knew because my father wasn't just a paramedic, he was an elite paramedic, And I always could tell from the reverence he got from his co workers and piers how good he was. But I never appreciated how good he was until I became a flight nurse and start working with paramedics day in and day out and being challenged with these things that he dealt with when I was Yeah, I remember you know I'd ask him stuff and he would give me very padded parental guidance kind of answers to questions. And yet there were some times where he was just blatantly, blatantly on, you know, honest. And how do you feel? Oh, Daddy. You know, why Did, uh, why did why did he die? He wasn't wearing a helmet, son and his brain got smashed inside of his skull. Little things like that, you like? Oh, my goodness. You know, But you think about it in context in such an intelligently, scientifically appropriate answer to a child's question, eh? So I started, grew up in that environment of realizing there's this higher echelon of people that can communicate Rhea world tragedy with science and practical knowledge and yet find a way to be a hero in the midst of all that. So I just grew up in awe of this man, my father. And as it turns out, uh, I thanked him in the book and when I wrote the flight nurse viable. Thank you so much for for plugging that I will do it shamelessly throughout the rest of the cast. I sent the manuscript to him and my beautiful life partner. Nurse Jenny and I had Damn and a couple other buddies look through the manuscript and I said, Tear it apart with a fine tooth comb. Tell me what you think. Tell me, does this book need to be written or am I just doing this for my ego? What do you think? And my father came back and he's a very alert alert, Very like a set elite paramedic, paramedic, educator. He's also F p c e o a sort of and all that. He came at me and he said, I think it's honest. I think it's brutal. I think it's great.
Alli:
05:29
Wow!
Flight Nurse Rob:
05:29
And he's very conservative, and that was getting his blessing on this was all I needed. Uh, thing that gave me such a sense of confidence, that man, if my father said, go with this, anybody will Not that he's a hard man, but he's a He's a perfectionist,
Alli:
05:46
knows that level right?
Flight Nurse Rob:
05:47
That was the greatest encouragement I could have gotten. And Nurse Jenny said, go for it was almost like that scene in Apollo 13 where he's calling us. I need help with the arithmetic that he calls down and everybody's on their slide rulers doing that. You know, there's, like, thumbs up. We're good flight, We're good. Flight were good. It was like I got all these thumbs up across the board and that's it. All right, It's time to publish. And it's been nothing but a blessing. Can
Alli:
06:07
you tell us a little bit, then? What you mean by elite? Is that Is that a standard that that's, you know, got literal qualifications? Or is that a perspective? You know, given? Yeah, tell me a little bit what elite means to you.
Flight Nurse Rob:
06:20
Oh, no. Okay, here's the thing. I use the term elite just to intentionally put people on their toes just to intentionally make people put the guard up. It's almost like somebody faint jabs you, you know, in a fight or something like that, your guard up and get you going cause that's how I want every single healthcare professional toe work every single day. They need to be on guard. They need to be defensive about their abilities, and I want them to be able to prove to me and their patients, most importantly, what they're capable of. So I set this high bar in the book. And I said, This high bar in life, which makes me so much fun to work with, huh? You know, I enjoy being a mentor to people, and when I'm in that fortunate position, I try to mellow out a little bit and just say, Hey, it's me, you know, In the book, I havejust a very basic quote that says, It's, you know, take a deep breath. Everybody relax. We're on the same team here. It's us against death. That's it. I mean, eight billion people on the planet near Sally and nobody's getting out alive. So we gotta find a way to become adults and just get mature with the fact that we're mortal. What's important is that we're appreciative of our mortality or appreciative of the of the legend we can leave behind or the legacy and everything. I get all these feedback sometimes when people that do take a chill pill like what? Like people that don't seem to be a CZ proud as I am about doing the same thing. And I got one simple thing I used. It shuts him up pretty good, and I say, Hey, I sell in retail. I'm saving lives. I don't know. I'm not downplaying this. If I take myself too serious or if I sound like I'm a cartoon character of myself, that's cause I need to be. I cannot emphasize enough the importance of taking this serious and being as crazy as you can become on paper and your skills in real life and real quick, the pleasure Plug your sister. Jill, if you guys haven't listen to that podcast. At what number was that Alley?
Alli:
08:18
That was Episode five. I want to see. If not, I'll go back and correct it.
Flight Nurse Rob:
08:22
If not, listen to that one. Guys, this conversation, we're gonna have a lot of fun. But when I first started talking about Valerie right before we went live, I said, Listen, your sister nailed it like everything you asked me. If you ask your sister, I'm gonna give the same answer. You're sister Jill. Anderson was did a great, great podcast, and I really wanted to say thank you to her for doing such a great job. Listen to that podcast, people. And I know I've gone on a rant here. Uh,
Alli:
08:46
I personally for plugging that because, you know, it is within you know the first season I will have to flight nurses, which is super awesome, because I know that this is a job that people will send me messages saying, Can you tell me more about this flight nursing thing? So it's really cool. It's It's a neat opportunity. So thank you for, you know, thank you. Thank you for saying such sweet things about Jill. I know she'll look that, but, you know, I love what you said about, you know, when I asked you to describe the elite being how you basically said that we need Thio. You do not startle. But you want people to take their roles seriously and their skills seriously. And something that you said on your episode with Nurse Keith.
Flight Nurse Rob:
09:24
Uh, Nurse Keith is one the most genuine, beautiful human beings I've ever met.
Alli:
09:29
W w dot nurse keith dot com.
Flight Nurse Rob:
09:32
That's right, buddy. Whoa, for a plug, Keith. All right. Sorry. There, Sally. Continue. Continue.
Alli:
09:37
So So we're talking about taking a role seriously, and I think something that you said on his podcast was so interesting to me. You said that you might have the credentials, but that doesn't mean you have the skill to get the job done. And so I think that's kind of what I understood. As you know, elite was like Not only do you have the certifications, but you also have the day to day the sense of responsibility and urgency and high intensity. You know, it just from my perspective, that's what I would consider elite, cause, you know, credentials look look like a big deal. But if you're not embodying the learning, you know, if you're not enacting those credentials, then you know you're you're subpar, you know you're not doing your job right. So I think that that's a really important distinction,
Flight Nurse Rob:
10:19
most certainly most certainly in Greek to piggyback on that. The reason you're in the book, I wanted to get the point across of certification certification. I'm pro certification you because that's kind of my stick that if I bring anything to the table of them, just lots of experience and a genuine luck to be alive still is my relative success with these the process of gaining certification. But I have encountered an issue, and I didn't deal with this in the book because I wanted to keep it upbeat and positive. But I've ran into haters, especially early on in my career, because I had a lot of experience by the time I got to the R N roll. So I gathered a lot of my certifications very quickly. So by the time I started flying in my three year mark, I was cannon fodder for a lot of more experience practitioners as I should have been. You know, I'm I'm young, I'm new, I need to learn the field and, you know, ice. I took to it like a duck in water, and I just I learned so much from so many different mentors. But occasionally I would run into a person that would just say to me, Point blank, Oh, you're the star guy. We'll see how you do. And you have, like, a way, you know, for you, man, that's kind of a rude attitude. But he's right. That's what I say. He It was this one in particular male who was a very brutal mentor. I ended up loving him like a brother, but he didn't give me the benefit of a doubt for anything I had on paper and in looking back, I appreciate that Because a lot of people, if you fall in my book in my advice, you're gonna end up with this amazing resume. That doesn't mean you're going to be good at this. That doesn't mean you're gonna be it elite. You have to earn it. You have to earn every second of it. They call it my My father had a funny line or you said you got you got book smarts and you got walking sense. And just because you got one doesn't mean you got the other. And so I have met some very certified nurse's that can't tie their shoes. They can't find their way out of a paper bag, so to speak, you know, but because But you have to prove yourself. So I kind of showed up thinking, Yes, my resume probably did help me get the job. That's the whole point. But when I showed up, nobody was giving me any slack like, Oh, that's great. You have a lot of weird numbers and letters, numbers, letters behind your name. And so what,
Alli:
12:40
You're basically own your own alphabet really is what it is. Well,
Flight Nurse Rob:
12:44
that that's appreciative. But I guess you know you gotta be able to be worthy of it. And there's nowhere to hide. It's just you. And it's just mortality that you're fighting against. So
Alli:
12:54
well, you know, it's interesting as I do want to make a point in that, you know, getting the flak that you had. Oh, the sir guy or the sort guy, you know? Yes, that's important. But they didn't necessarily see you and diapers having these conversations about, you know, the reality of it with your father. So your certification actually extends your lifespan. You know, when you're actually in it, you were Your brain was already functioning at a certain level, you know, with these critical thinking and your curiosity kind of lead you. So I think the certifications, you know, they will get you the job. They're like the Sprinkle on top of the cake, you know, because everything was their foundation. Aly and you just did the work.
Flight Nurse Rob:
13:32
You know what? It just occurred to me this might be an opportunity to shamelessly plug my book the Flight Nurse Bible, a field guide toe awesomeness available on amazon dot com and anywhere find books are sold. And since we're gonna discuss certifications. Let's just rattle them off for a quick. We have my pride and joy. We got the CFR in
Alli:
13:52
Wait, don't You can't take this away from me. I'm gonna read this,
Flight Nurse Rob:
13:55
right. You're gonna be okay. All right? All right.
Alli:
13:58
And then you can translate for us.
Flight Nurse Rob:
14:00
Okay? You got
Alli:
14:01
it. So we've got our n b s and C f R N C T R N t C R N C E N c p E N c N p t and C c or in
Flight Nurse Rob:
14:16
Yeah, yeah. You think it's out of breath for announcing I'm trying earning my immigration tell you. And the important thing is, I'm not some whiz kid. I'm the last. I was raised in a log cabin in East Tennessee. I have not a genius. I have struggled and fought my entire life. I had to struggle when I had to fight for it, and I left home at 17 and joined the Navy and became a Corman and was shot out into the world from not just a cannon but like a howitzer and which is, you know, anybody joins the military and their teens. That's what life does to you. And so I I ended up in this fun place and s So when I got the r N later on down the road, I said, You know what? I have had all this life experience. Let me put stuff behind my name. That kind of conveys that experience on paper to other professionals and a potential employer. So certifications were the key to that. And yes, obviously, I plug search, search, search, search, search. That's obviously my thing on. And if you read my book, there's a lot more good stuff in there, too. But the CFR N is my pride and joy. That's your flight nurse, uh, as your certified flight registered nurse. Then you got the C T. R N, which is your transport registered nurse, which is a little bit more broad scale. It doesn't have the flight component questions, but it's still very intensive with packaging and transport medicine, and you got the T. C R N. That's the trauma cert, that's brand new. Just a couple years old. Everybody spot vying to get that one because it has trauma in the title. That's like a super super. I don't want to be a racy on your podcast, but that's the brand new sexy search everybody wants the T C R n. So that one selling like hotcakes did you get the C E N, which is the the boilerplate awesome emergency nurse certain. Then he got the sea pen, which is the pediatric version of the C E N, which is very challenging because it makes you pivot with your knowledge base, very challenging. I never could always recommend we might get to that later. I know I talked too long. I may be cut myself off the heels here, but you want to get those two together, the sea and the sea pen, and then you go for the other higher level search. Then he got the C N P T, which is done by a different organization. And that's the neonatal pediatric transport, and not many people have that one. That's the only answer I have. It's available to MDs are ends Artie's paramedics. Anybody could get that one that has a higher provider license, and that makes it kind of fun. There's only a few 100 people that have it, so it's not even the c n, P. T and You're like tha the CCR in which I put last on purpose because it's a joke because it's a joke is in I put it last because it's quite possibly the hardest one to get. I mean, it is just a kick in the teeth. And so but the CFR end the seat Trn and the C C r n are all in the same level. So I just put the CCR and at the end, as a, uh, look, I'm flipping my ponytail in the breeze like, Oh, yeah, I also have that one. But trust
Alli:
17:13
your mike, your mic drop credentials, and
Flight Nurse Rob:
17:15
that was that was tongue in cheek. Good luck with that one, huh?
Alli:
17:20
Wow. Okay, so can you give me an idea of how many years it took you to collect all of these?
Flight Nurse Rob:
17:28
Okay, Well, if you're listening to this broadcast, everybody buckle up because this is gonna get weird. All right. So I went through the 80 n program. I was ah, Korman. They challenged the LV n. So I left the Navy after a very adventure filled number of years with my El viene license and the G I. Bill, I joined an a T M program, which I love that your cousin. Once again, I keep plugging your sister, cousin, sister, I keep plugging your sister Jill Darn right I do. Once again go listen to that podcast. Cheap plugs 80 and as well. And I want a piggyback on that. I'm down here in Southern California where life is crazy. Once again, I don't mention this entire podcast legal disclaimer. I don't mention any names, dates, locations, agencies, anything that this is all very vague stuff. But I do reside in San Diego, California presently. And most of my education was done there as well a lot. There's a stigma now because of health care 2020 and all this magnet hospital stuff going on that you have to have a bachelor's. You have to have a bachelor's screw that get your 80 and start their start the clock in your career. If you're like me and you know you want to fly, they can't accept a resume until you've been in our in our paramedic till three years. So you the second I got my a t n second, I pass 10 klicks. I hit the stopwatch and I said Okay. I got 12. 24 36 months until I am able to play this game. So are you ready, Audience? Are you ready, Nurse Sally? I got a little I got a little true fact for you is gonna make your toes curl with either hatred, envy or some combination of the two. I had my c e n 90 days after passing in plex 90 days and people shake their head. They're like, How is that possible? Well, it says a year, too. Experience required on the website. That's just a recommendation because I don't want to be held liable when you get cocky and no fail because he's a really hard exams. It's just recommendation. So pay on their money, go do their thing. And I'm not getting paid a dime to promote To be C, E N or the American Association of Critical Care Nurses today, CNN or any of these other organizations. I've just been really games in town, so they want to be responsible. They have great recommendations for what you should do, but they're just recommendations. And so if you think you're awesome, because I'm being so long winded here, all expedite over the four rules. I haven't I think the second chapter of my book about certification crap and don't get me wrong. We get into deep, deep, deep waters after that. For if you're already experienced flight nurse and you want to dive into the book, there'll be something for for you, too. But the first couple of chapters, I hope people get set up, so but I'm gonna jump straight to the fourth rule of certification exams, which is grip it and rip it. Just get in there and out the gates. A lot of people are afraid of taking these exams because, you know, they're gonna look stupid if they pass. And a couple of the other rules summarized is don't tell anyone where you're gonna go. Take him. Keep it a secret. Just like I'm studying. I'm studying. Keep it. You know that we're not in your head psyched out psychologically, because what if you fail? You're gonna look dumb, so you don't want to do that. So don't tell anybody. Just show, You know, be a night shift with your books, and I'm just studying. I don't know what I'm gonna take it. This is challenging stuff, man. You know, I don't know. I'm gonna do, and then you show up the next day with a badge like check it out. Yeah, or more. If you fail, you don't tell anybody. And you just You know, man, I'm really thorough with my studying because you have to wait 90 days in between test if you fail, so you just show up. But it's just a recommendation for how long you have to be an RN. Now, that's a whole separate thing like is it? Get all these things behind your name. If you're a good test taker, doesn't mean you're ready to join the field. And trust me, by the time you're vetted and through the process to become a flight nurse, they will have weeded out whether or not you're ready, so you won't have to worry about that. But dive straight in with you certifications And the plan, by the way I recommend people doing it is get some sort of critical care experience, whether it's e. R or a cute care nursing or whatever, you can D'oh, get your c e n first get your sea pen. Second, get the trauma cert After that because it piggybacks on top of the knowledge earned in those two exams specifically and then dive into the icy you level exams, which is your c f r n in your c t RN. And then, of course, your CC Iran, which is the I. C U exam and just a quick example. I I used this during an interview once, and I don't want to be repetitive, but I'm gonna period it because I was like, Man, I on the fly actually actually nailed that particular point. And this isn't a dig on any particular exam. They're all ridiculously hard. And if you don't study properly, you will fail. But a C E N level exam question is interpret the following a b g. I think this is a metabolic acidosis. Great, Awesome. A, c c r Enter CFR in level exam. Question is, you have the following a B g, the following lab values following vent settings and the following vital signs. What adjustments They could be made your ventilator. You're like you have to process 50 pieces of information just to decide what tweaks you're gonna make on your equipment. That's where the level rises which So that's why I lay that out the way I d'oh. But a lot of people won't take these exams because they're scared of failing. Just grip it and rip it briefly Study it for a week or two. Go and take it. And if you fail, if you fail it. But I call it facing the cert Exam Dragon, You've seen what it looks like. You're no longer living in myth. You've seen it. You walk out to your car after most likely failing because you didn't take it serious enough. And you just you sit there and you just dump your brain of frustration and you're like, Man, I need to learn more about this topic in this topic and there's so many no eat. Just the key to success is identifying knowledge, deficits and fixing them. And then you just have to wait, like, 60 or 90 days, depending on the exam, whatever it is, and then you can go back and take it again. Now is just financially responsible. Probably not. These exams are expensive, and he made me want to prepare properly the first time. That's fine. Or take my advice and just grip it and rip it wussy. Another six minute question.
Alli:
23:21
No, I love that. I think that's so good. I, you know, taking taking some of the pressure off by not advertising to anyone that you're doing, I think is huge. And then really, like you said, I mean, they're not gonna evict you from the world of test taking if you fail. So it's just failing, learning from your failure to doing it again until you pass it. I think that's awesome. I think that's really smart
Flight Nurse Rob:
23:43
and help anybody out there who thinks I'm braggadocious and crazy and man. If this guy was more full of himself, he would just explode on the microphone. Remember, Log Cabin? Yes, Tennessee. Humble beginnings. Not a genius. I failed every single certain, I think, except for the CEO, at least once before I finally earned them. But I kept going back and I kept going back, and every time I got a little bit better and this is the short version. But after two years of just being in and out of these testing centers, getting my teeth kicked in month after month after month, I was getting better all the way and then, in one magical six week period, two weeks apart. Boom, boom, boom Staggered. I got my CFR in my c t r and M I C c R n And at that time I was like, Okay, let's do this.
Alli:
24:24
That's awesome. Thank you for sharing that you failed those initial times because I think that really many times that's gonna be really helpful to people thinking. Man, I don't even know if I could do this huge.
Flight Nurse Rob:
24:36
Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Like the greatest fighters on Earth, It's like I don't know which Buddhist forever over which to get a piece of Eastern wisdom. This is originally but fall down nine times. Get up, 10. You're only failure Doesn't matter if you make it Not matter. Just get up. Demand victory In the long run, everybody gets setbacks. This is life, man. Life is hard. You just got it. Not say no. You just gotta find a way to laugh it off. You think anybody is perfect, you know? I mean, look at go cake, Steve Jobs. Michael Jordan, Like all these great great men and women throughout history that have just fallen on their faces flat pick themselves up and going on to massive, massive success and victory that this is the way we have to view this. And I hope people are getting a vibe here about man. This is like this'll is a nurse. This is this is a male nurse. Oh, my goodness. You no disrespect to the mad, mad, mad legacy of female nursing. But we are 20 years into a global war that is producing generations now of ex military men that don't want to go make depending upon where you live. Darn near minimum wage in a pre hospital setting. Quite often so. And we're set up with the G I Bill and sometimes the LV n or an equivalent. So there's there's this huge masculine influx into the field of nursing, So don't get me wrong. I mean, I I've written papers about Florence Nightingale and I have the absolute utmost respect for the female power and legacy of nursing and very outspoken on that point. But I also feel an obligation to speak to the younger generation of men out there. That is like, I don't know what stigma you think is holding you back, but I know almost as many male nurses now as I do female nurses. And do you look at? The percentage is in acute care settings, at least, and you look at the percentages in nursing schools. And it's on the rise approaching 50 50 in certain places because it's such an amazing job opportunity. You're looking at an A T N and Jill. You're Sister Jill. Look, this same is me because the associate degree in nursing what else is there at the end of a two year tunnel has a light bright enough to offer you unlimited six figure income potential for life in my nursing program. There were two young women, both age 18. They went from their high school graduation into the Etienne program before they're allowed to buy a drink in this country. Legally, they will be our ends with unlimited six figure income potential for life. That is an almost unbelievable unbelievable. I just wanted to, you know, say that because I talked to a lot of young men all the time that I hadn't even thought of nursing because it doesn't come to their minds, and I just if you're in the military like me and you don't see it. Is this amazing opportunity full of heroes for both genders? Then you may not come to that conclusion. So anyway, I just wanted to say that
Alli:
27:27
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Flight Nurse Rob:
30:07
All right? And by the way, let's hear it for my brother. It only cost me $100 to get that review. He did a great job, didn't everybody? All right. Whoa, No, I'm kidding. I honestly I'm not gonna lie. I almost I almost cried when I read that review because I was pretty much right after the book came out. I saw somebody wrote that that I didn't know and that was awesome. That was really touching to me. So thank you. Whoever you are. Okay. The 12 flight. There's commandments. This is Page 12. Ha ha ha ha ha! 12. 12 From the Flight Nurse Bible A field guide to awesomeness available on amazon dot com and anywhere Find books are sold. The 12 flight Nurse Commandments number one Be nice number to be situationally aware and prepared for anything. Number three. You are only as good as your last flight number four Do not get total vision. Stop Severe bleeding Needle Decompressed both sides of the chest. Secure the airway number five. Take a deep breath. Calm your voice tone and speed Number six. Be a master of machines and know your pharmacy number seven Captain. Ah, graffiti is unimpeachable. Number eight. Everything is your fault, Doc. You meant well. Number nine. No. One to gather your equipment and walk away slowly and quietly. Number 10. Reassess, Reassess, Reassess Number 11. Do not walk into tail rotors. Number 12. Are you ready? Number 12. Be nice.
Alli:
31:45
You got a sandwich it in their hearts. If that's an important one, be nice. I'm considered. I'm thinking of the situations in which you arrive on scene and how just your being nice can change the entire the entire experience of everyone
Flight Nurse Rob:
32:04
s so huge You are. You know, I like Jen ai metaphors. Although I joking. And I can't use the term jet I in the books. I don't want Disney taking my home and my clothes on my back, but I'm obsessed with Star Wars and of course I'm a nerd and Star Wars and all that I s So I created a term in the book because I have a lot of teaching people and doing speak speeches and whatnot. I have a lot of Jen ai references. Well, in a publication, I can't use any of that. So I created a term called Flight Night to replace Jen ai. But we all know what I meant.
Alli:
32:37
Very creative. Okay, so I'm assuming that all of my listeners will be getting this book as soon as they're done listening to this episode. Could you then point them into the direction cause I know that you are an advocate for continued learning? So is there are there are a few books or there's some resource is that you have enjoyed or that you're enjoying now that you might share so that we can continue that. You know, we've got her. We've got our certifications. We've got the job. What's next? How do we How do we move forward and make sure that we're successful throughout our career, Not just getting the job.
Flight Nurse Rob:
33:10
That is a great setup. Nurse Alley. And I hate to keep come back to the plug, but at the end of my book, you know, I have, ah, section of use full abbreviations and acronyms. And then after that, I have, Ah, there's roughly, you know, maybe over 80 different references to books that are gonna be absolutely and directly relative and relevant to your education process. But simply put, this is about passion. And once again, I keep looking your sister Jill, she she said this to You're gonna be hungry. It's about passion. It's about loving what you d'oh. And if you haven't already cleared out the anything under flight intersection of Amazon or eBay or wherever you buy things or Barnes the noble wherever you're at. If you haven't cleaned out those books sections or downloaded those kindles, then you're not taking this seriously enough. So in addition to my book, which I hear great things about the flight nurse Bible Bob. There are many others that now a lot of them are anecdotal. A lot of them are retired nurses just going over their career and depth of fine tooth comb. Tonia. Great educational stories, those air hugely valuable. But so many of them are instructional. And of course, we have the B c E. And like I said, the board certification for emergency nursing. And then, of course, there's the S t e n a. The Association for Critical for Transport Nursing Association Air Transport Association. Yes, I can use English words. The end. There's the e N A, of course, Emergency Nursing Association and so many of their publications. You going to their website or just go on Amazon type in flight nurse. And by everything I like to say when the student is ready, the master will appear Well, if you were having this conversation and if you're still listening the super super super fun podcast with the famous Nurse Sally and myself, then I bet you've already been there, and I bet you're owning these books and I hope you're reading along. And if not Get off your key stir and go buy these books and become the best version of who you can be.
Alli:
35:15
Rob, can you tell me a little bit about your your experience? I mean, this is such this is such a high intensity job. I mean, start to finish, and then you go home. And so I want to know what you have found to be helpful for your mental health. How do you cope with this role? How do you wind down from a shift? How do you How do you How do you balance physical and mental stress?
Flight Nurse Rob:
35:42
Well, just like John Wick. I enjoyed bourbon. I find that get No, I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. I'm now. I mean, I'm not, but at the same time, that's nowhere to hide. That's, you know, ee aa lot of people in this crazy, crazy world of emergency medicine with your physician. Ah, paramedic er nurse a CNN, eh? Whatever you are, this is gonna take an emotional toll on at one point or another. So I tell everybody. One of the most important things is that when you come home, I don't know who you're coming home to husband, wife. I've personally only did it people and currently in Miss Jenny. Like I said, my life partner, she and I are. She's also a nurse and a flight nurse, and I guess I get to We download onto each other our thoughts of problems and get the feedback, and I find that the closer I can be to the people in my life and the more they can relate to me and meet them. So I tend to surround myself with knowledgeable counsel, I guess, is what I'm saying, and I guess I've always been drawn to people that are interested in what I'm interested in. Not that there's anything supernatural about that. But a support system, I guess, is what I'm getting at and someone you can talk to who loves you and take care of your mental abilities and also someone you feel like giving that to a CZ Well, because not just it's one thing to be a caregiver for your patients. It's another thing to be a caregiver properly and be a men towards your Children, to your spouse, to the people around you and your friends, and semi challenging aspects of life in our Sally, you know, I mean, it's goodness gracious. You know, as soon as we think we master one, we fall on our face and another, and it's just counter balance between the two constantly in life. But I also, you know, get your heart rate up occasionally, you know, have fun physical relationships with with your significant other enjoy ju jitsu. I skydive a lot. Personally, I enjoy kind of being on the edge. I tell you, when you're about to jump out of an airplane and people his joke, does it feel like to jump out of a perfectly good airplane? I always joke you have not seen our airplane, but, you know, whatever you're going to jump out of an airplane, the volume on your life gets turned down significantly or when you're rolling ju jitsu, you know you're about to get choked out. Nothing else matters, and it's a very gentle sport to you don't have to be physically prowess. Tor look like a UFC fighter to enjoy it. You should sue, so I do a lot of that. I also play guitar and do some drawing. I'm always writing, and plus you mentioned the asserts a few times here. First part of the Certs is getting them. The second part is staying worthy of them. So most of my time, it's funny. Nurse Jenny and I have this funny thing, and we were gonna write about this someday in some paper joint paper, Probably where we really believe in osmosis. You know, the hilarious thing where we feel obligated to be studying at all times. So never will you find us passed out on the couch after a long day with our books closed without there being a book, at least closed on our lap of some material we should have been studying, We know
Alli:
38:38
that. I think that's phenomenal, because I, you know, I love reading too. And, you know, my sometimes, you know, I like business books. I like personal development things, whatever it might be. But and then, you know, trying to share that with people who weren't in the same frame of reference has been so difficult. It's always back to this. Well, I just don't have any time. I don't have any time, so
Flight Nurse Rob:
38:58
make it you think you on musk has enough hours in the day, right? You think Oprah has enough hours in the day. No. She provides herself with the opportunities to allow herself himself for these successes. You've gotta make it exactly. Nurse Sally, You're so good. You're just a man. You're just nailing this.
Alli:
39:19
Well, thank you. Now it's really important. I mean, if you think about you know, if flight nursing is important to you or whatever job it is that you're doing now, if that's important to you, it's a priority. And you have to prioritize it with your time. And I think that we often forget that it takes work to its continuing being good at something. So I'm really glad that you that you brought that up. Um So what in the year of the nurse 2020? You know, I had I interviewed someone earlier, and she's like, Ellie, you know what? It's always Europe. The nurse were always nurses. It's just 2020. Has it had gotten pretty title, right? So when I love
Flight Nurse Rob:
39:51
it, I'm straight. I don't know if you're editing that or not. I don't care. Damn straightener, Sally. I love that it is year of the nurse and just a fun side note on that I know we're all coming back to Florence Nightingale this year. I originally thought, Hey, you know what? I want to be controversial. I'm gonna write out book about Florence Nightingale. It's gonna tear her down a peg or two because I'm a nurse, just like you. And sometimes I'm, like, so sick of its Lawrence. I didn't get all this. Can't all be true, right? Actually has to be like, I just I'm like, uh, Christopher Hitchens is my literary hero, and he would take on a lot of crazy topics. And I was like, You know what? I'm gonna attack Florence Nightingale. I researched it. I vetted her in and out her interactions with Darwin, her actions with the pope, everything I could find anywhere. And you know what I ended up with in the end? Nor Sally,
Alli:
40:39
What you end up with
Flight Nurse Rob:
40:40
nothing. She was amazing. She was freaking amazing. I have never been a huger and more proud, loud and proud fan of Florence Nightingale. Then when I set out to destroy her in a book and I couldn't find it, Gosh darn thing that depleted that woman of anything that she was do amazing. Amazing hero for all of us. And but for 2020 I wanna stay healthy. I want to try to stay at my fighting weight. I've been trying to do some intermittent fasting lately, and I've been taking the vitamins to keep my triglycerides down. And I'm trying to stay healthy and being a human being. I quit smoking a few years back, and so every morning I wake up with this little power in the back of my head saying, Hey, you quit smoking. You enjoy life. You want to live longer. And so you know, I want to get faster with my arm bars. I want to get better with my triglycerides and I want to get smarter with my brain, so I don't know if I'm going for a degree or not. I don't want to teach, and I don't want to be an administrator. I don't want to teach in a professional setting, and I don't want to be an administrator, so I'm not sure good on MSN will do me, although someday I may end up there, never say never. But I plan on publishing this year, but it's it's controversial and crazy, and we might talk again once it's out. And if you want to be associated with me still, huh? And so we'll see what happens. But it's gonna be a big year. A big year for nursing and a big year for Ah, Robert be Henry's rnb sncf r n c t r N T c R s c e n c pen cfdt, CCR and author of the Flight Nurse Bible, A field guide to awesomeness of l one Amazon a common anywhere. Find books are sold.
Alli:
42:14
Nicely done. Wow. You tattooed on your arm, right? Is trust. Um okay, So as we're closing up, could you tell me if you could go back in time getting those certifications? Maybe in nursing school? If you could tell yourself one thing that maybe would translate to the nursing students that are listening. What? What piece of advice would you share?
Flight Nurse Rob:
42:39
I'm always fighting the world a little bit. Nurse alley with, uh, my inclination to be naughty and my obligation to be appropriate. So I'm gonna put this as bluntly as I can. The most hard core amazing that this air, not badass nurse, you're ever gonna meet like your cousin or sit cousin, when I keep going back to cousins, your sister, Jill, or at the risk of sounding conceited myself or nurse Keith or you or any of the hundreds of mentors out there to us and the weakest, most cruel, unimaginative nurse you're ever gonna meet, they all went to the same nursing school. It's like high school. You're at the end of high school. I got expelled and I got kicked out for a variety of reasons. We'll talk about that on the return guest strategy, but high school, the best two and half years of my life, uh, open it. At the end of high school, you get handed an empty book, and it's called Your Life story, and you got to fill it with entertaining stuff. Uh, nursing school is the same way. You get handed an empty book, and you get to fill it with your career. And some people write romance novels. Some people write horror stories, some people write success guides, and some people don't write a darn thing, and nobody cares about those stories. And so I don't want to say any particular roles and nursing that are obviously at the bottom because I would just be wildly condescending. But there are motivators in this profession, and you know who they are. And then there are people you hope you don't end up as, and you know who they are. And they all went to the same nursing school. So get through it. There are very few things in life that have the massive light at the end of this short ETI n or even be a sento that people ask me all the time about retirement stuff. And I do invest in. Of course I don't. Not a fool. I don't want to end up broke in my senior days, but at the same time, I don't plan on retiring. 65 isn't what it used to be. Our you have your mind. I'm not exactly young man, but I'm not old either. Like I like my father is approaching retirement age. Oh, he'll get mad. I said that I have a very useful father, but, uh, he'll get mad. I said that, but he's never gonna retire. I'm never gonna retire. You can nurse from a wheelchair. You could nurse from a bed if you want to. You You know, nurses in their seventies that air going hard going strong and would be devastated at the thought of staying home all day doing nothing. So I I think that we're part of the future owner Sally Me and you and I think that your podcast RN professions podcast like what a great title and how true to the fact that you're just trying to help people get on track to set the rest of their lives up for massive success and talk to nurse Keith, Talk to myself, talk to Nurse Alley once again and all the other people in the back of the flight Nurse Bible and anywhere else on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook or any of these places. And there's so many mentors out there that just want to make you better and all we really want. It's for more people to be happy. We're all here together. We're on the same team, so be nice. Be cool and try to make your life worth something.
Alli:
45:52
Nurse Rob, can you share with listeners from page 1 48 to give them some parting words of encouragement?
Flight Nurse Rob:
46:00
Well, thank you so much. This is Page 1 48 Are you ready people. Oh, yeah. You're gonna do it already. He's not gonna do it again. Oh, yes, he is. From the Flight Nurse Bible of Field Guide to Awesomeness. Available on amazon dot Comment anywhere. Find books are sold. Page 1 48 people. There are billions and billions of people on this beautiful blue planet and we're all spinning through space together for the entire term of our short lives. These facts should not depress you or make you feel some. All these facts should inspire and empower you to look around the world and see the many ways you can make a positive impact with your existence. If there is a greater purpose to life, it must be to serve one another passionately and alleviate suffering. We must also attempt to live as intelligently, courageously and joyfully as possible. Semper fi blue skies via C and deals. Oh, and one more thing, Nurse Alley. No matter what you do, do not walk into a tail rotor.
Alli:
47:08
Thank you so much for everything. This was so much fun. And I know the listeners are gonna love it. They're gonna be highly entertained and educated as well. And that's really huge that's so important. So I thank you so much for just coming on and sharing everything that you have been working for since you were in diapers. It's really phenomenal. And I'm honored to have the opportunity to speak with you.
Flight Nurse Rob:
47:28
Thea, honor is mine. Thank you for what you do. And don't ever stop blessing.
Alli:
47:32
Thank you so much. And listeners, I want you to contemplate on the words that Nurse Rogers shared with us and consider what book are you writing? I'm not
Flight Nurse Rob:
50:56
actually have on a bright pink T shirt that I just purchased, uh, partially for this podcast. And it has a giant Superman crest on the chest of this breaking T shirt, and it says RN in the superman. So
Alli:
51:14
I just saw one of those on Instagram yesterday, and I thought, I've got to get one of those is there, So I don't know what came in pink.
Flight Nurse Rob:
51:20
You know what? I'll send you a picture of me wearing it. You could put it in the notes for the show.
Alli:
51:25
And then when this airs, you instagram story that and I want that picture on there.
Flight Nurse Rob:
51:30
Of course. Course
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